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May 29th, 2003, 12:14 PM
#1
Inactive Member
"Anything can seem funny or serious to anyone from any perspective, but girls, love, will remain a topic of respect more than any other. Music can provoke emotions. A burning creative need strikes me as I listen to Neil Young. Then it's gone. Return to the default state, one of anxieties and setbacks. Which holds more truth for you? Which more real? Isn't it important? You are a concoction of experience, attitudes, and emotions. Of course you are, but why are you different to everyone else. Your average 70 years will ensure you effect others in some way, is it important? Your fluxtuation of the web of others, your impact on their set of experiences... Nothing I can say will make it easier to understand. But I think Being with you will."
A voice-over epilogue to a film about conciousness, with perhaps the same feel as what Neo says before flying away at the end of The Matrix, or what Donnie says in the letter to Grandma Death in Donnie Darko.
without knowing what the rest of the film was like, has anyone made or thought about making something you consider to be a similar theme? Or knows of a good existing film like this? Waking Life is the only one I can think of.
Comments.
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May 29th, 2003, 01:03 PM
#2
Inactive Member
No offense but it seems like rambling...
IF that is you're intention then you have succeeded. However, I would drop the big word usage because it just strikes me as trying to hard to say--oh look at me I'm smart!
I think we need to be given more context for exactly where this fits in or what the situation is because I'm asking myself right now is this realistic?
I think in short we need more context for what you are trying to say...and if possible drop the big word usage.
Later,
Paul
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May 29th, 2003, 01:58 PM
#3
Inactive Member
I'd say that was a recurring concept in a great many memorable films and books. One of life's important themes.
I think what you have written is good. At last somebody who's not writing about zombies. As Paul M says you could trim some of the jargon - you don't need to try so hard with fancy words. Your message is strong enough - don't detract from it.
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ May 29, 2003 11:05 AM: Message edited by: Justin (formerly Twister) ]</font>
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May 29th, 2003, 09:06 PM
#4
Inactive Member
Ok, you're right. But first, isn't it ok to waffle if that's what the character does?
Context: Having written that paragraph prior to the formulation of the actual plot, it may still seem abit dodgy, as works in progress are.
A bleak, desolate setting. Perhaps featuring the absence of everyone but the characters at all times, I like that idea. Someone hopes to cure a friend (lover?) of their depression by attending a stereotypical "after work class", An "Improve Yourself" session. Y'know the type, the kind for yoga, or writing, etc. Well, this one is for Mind Alteration. Uneasily sinister, the well intentioned group are taught to plant memories in other peoples minds through a series of sub concious techniques involving nothing more than talking to them. The film focus's on how the character tries to make the depressed other (who doesn't know about the class), happy, and the implications.
Better?
I don't know quite what feedback to expect, as I'm not really asking a question. I really appreciate advice but I'm not probing for it. I'm hoping others will emerge with ideas, experiences or anything they think are relevent.
shoot
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May 30th, 2003, 05:06 PM
#5
Inactive Member
A man tries to make every depressed person around him happy.
That's sort of what the basic idea is, right?
It could be pretty good, but since you're not asking anything about how it will be... in fact, what are you asking?
A Clockwork Orange it the only thing coming to my mind right now. The main characters is a psycho, and gets images planted in his head so that he will 'un-psycho'. Don't know if that's got anything to do with it tho.
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May 30th, 2003, 09:03 PM
#6
Inactive Member
Well, it'd be someone helping his/her ONE friend/lover (not sure). But technically yes. It's a film about someone helping someone else. Of course, thats a gross generalisation, As Amelie is "a film about someone falling in love".
I'm finding it hard to explain exactly how I want it to feel, but I've thought of some advances...
Its a struggle for the character, to actually change the persons memory. The other would later catch on, resisting.
A large part would be what the guy was considering putting in the the others head. Possibly in doing, making up for regrets or insecurities of his own.
Hows that?
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May 30th, 2003, 09:10 PM
#7
Inactive Member
sounds very european...ie all character based. Sometimes its hard to sum up your work but you should learn to try, because its very hard for other people coming to it. I'm sure it makes sense to you, but thats not the point, you're trying to communicate through film to other people.
You must LOVE Donnie Darko.
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May 31st, 2003, 05:06 AM
#8
Senior Hostboard Member
Hey there.
I don't know. I think it must be something wrong with me. But I just didnt understand waht you were talking about. I found it too dense. I think I need a bigger brain.
Despin out.
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May 31st, 2003, 10:40 AM
#9
Inactive Member
I think it's weird that some people DON'T like donnie darko, I mean, how? It's got pace, wit, finesse, the cream of 80's music, chilling moments... It's so thought provoking, one of those films that gives you goosebumps of respect every time you think about it for months afterwards. It makes about 90 percent of all other films look as bad as x men or 13 ghosts.
I'll post some more on the piece as soon as I write it, but until then, do complications make for a bad film? I don't think what I wrote before was wordy or inaccessable and I don't think for a second that I'm cleverer than any of you but I know people who don't like some titles just because they don't understand them; Isn't that the viewers fault? S'pose it depends...
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May 31st, 2003, 12:20 PM
#10
Inactive Member
Thank you for the short description, it helps! [img]wink.gif[/img]
I understood what you were saying in you're opening piece but I think they are easier ways to go about it. One suggestion, maybe put a flag in front of the dialog sans "Reloaded".
"What I am about to say you might not understand".
That felt like a direct challenge to the audience to try and interpret what the Architect was saying, forcing the audience to listen closer. Now I have a couple of questions:
1)Who is you're audience, that is who do you want to watch you're film?
2)What type of look are you going for? (Cinematography, Production Design etc.)
3)If you could pick one actor/actress to play the speaking part who would it be?
Thanks!
Later,
Paul
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